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Public or private graduate school
Question: I am trying to decide between two different graduate schools: a state school and a private college. Both have good, well respected programs, although I'm fairly certain that the private school has a slightly better reputation and would probably improve my chances of getting a good job after I'm done at least a bit. The real difference between the two schools is the cost, and it's the reason I'm concerned about accepting admission at the private school. I would probably have to take on between $30,000 to $40,000 in student loans to attend the private college, in addition to spending my entire life savings of about $30,000. This concerns me especially because the program - A masters in English literature--isn't going to greatly increase my earning potential. I plan to become a teacher, hopefully at a community college, although there's a chance I may want to go on to do a PhD. Also, I'm 31, and hope to buy a home and have children sometime in the not too distant future. And I have no retirement to speak of.
I'm really torn, because while I think I may get a better education at the private school, it seems like a bad idea financially, especially since the state school MAY be just as good (if not as cushy and warm and fuzzy). Should I take the risk and take on the debt required to go to the private college? Thank you! Anna, San Francisco, CA
Answer: Anna, I think you already answered your question as you wrote it out. You believe it doesn't make sense for you to take on that much debt and drain your savings for a degree that won't increase your earnings potential (much). If you go to the private college you'll spend years after getting your degree struggling to pay down debt, living on a financial high-wire. I take seriously the importance of enjoying your graduate school experience. But I worry that you'd end up financially strapped, limiting your freedom of choice once you have earned your degree.
I hope you've really explored that the state college graduate degree will pay off in terms of job and career. I'm not an expert, but I do know that the competition for teaching jobs at community colleges and junior colleges is soaring. When it comes to graduate school, it's less about getting an education (which is vital with an undergraduate education) and more a cold, rational calculus on the return on investment.
You might want to check out my answer to a related question that I posted on May 8th, Take on graduate student loans? Better yet, read the comment section. There are some very sharp observations on money and the risks of getting a graduate degree.
Anyone else want to weigh in with some insight for Anna?
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Comments (2)
May 13, 2009 5:38 PM PT
Well, I responded on the other question, so I'll bite here as well. Please don't think that I oppose the idea of grad school or education for its own sake -- I did a PhD out of love for the field (but thinking I would get a job in it), and though I ended up in another field entirely, I don't regret it. But I did a science PhD in a good program that payed me enough to live a comfortable lifestyle.
In Anna's case, however, I think that Chris is right on in saying first that the public school is a wiser decision, and second that going to grad school at all is likely not a good idea from a financial perspective. I can confirm as someone who recently looked at the academic job market (and had several acquaintances who actually went down that road) that community college jobs are very competitive nowadays, with the fraction of jobs going to PhDs steadily increasing (no, the PhD isn't a teaching degree any more than the master's, but it provides an easy screening tool and makes the school's statistics look better). Further, an increasing number of teachers in areas with a lot of students in introductory courses (like English) are being hired as adjuncts, with the horrible pay and benefits that accompany such positions.
If Anna goes the high school teaching route, then a master's might be a good financial decision; where I live, a teacher with a master's makes about $5,500 a year more than one with just a bachelor's, which could work out in the very long run (once the opportunity cost of two years of education is figured in). On the other hand, I see that in San Francisco a master's only gets you about $500 a year more, which makes it a sure money loser.
So the bottom line is that Anna should only go to grad school out of love for the field. There's nothing wrong with that as long as her eyes are open. I certainly would argue against the private school, however (while emphasizing to everyone that public/private is not the important distinction in these situations). Frankly, the idea of worrying about a small difference in marketability between master's degrees in English literature is a little silly.
If Anna gets further interested in the idea of a PhD, I would encourage her to read the columns here and here, and read other people's responses to those columns and similar ideas on the Chronicle forums. While I don't agree with the (common among disgruntled PhD graduates) perspective that university faculty actively deceive would-be graduate students, I do think that a lot of those prospectives don't really take the time to understand what they're getting themselves into for 5-8 years of school, plus the job search afterward.
May 18, 2009 1:18 PM PT
Since I am a community-college English teacher and have sat on the competitive hiring committees many times, I thought I might as well weigh in on this one! Anna, I think you're right to conclude that the job market is almost equally difficult with either degree. In fact, from the view of the hiring committee, public/state universities are often appealing, since those are the places the majority of community college students will be moving on to. Then again, more job applicants will be showing up with degrees from those schools, too -- so it's really six-to-one.
Much more significant, in my opinion, is your actual experience while in the programs, as you yourself touched on. Having done both my undergrad and graduate work at small private schools, I'm a believer in the quality of the experience these schools can offer. I hope you'll have the chance to spend time visiting and meeting professors at both campuses, and getting the feeling of the community at both places as well. It's a frightening amount of debt to take on, as you are well aware -- then again, it is your life, your precious time, and if you end up with a strong feeling that your experience will be better in one program over the other, that is certainly something to consider. Good luck!