Sponsor
  • News/Talk
  • Music
  • Entertainment
Marketplace logo
Go to Marketplace Home PageGo to Marketplace Morning ReportGo to Marketplace PM editionGo to Marketplace Money
My Two Cents, by Chris Farrell

« Recession? | Main | Executive pay, again »

Wall Street pay?

Posted by Chris Farrell on Wednesday, September 24, 2008

New York City securities industry firms paid out a total of $137 billion in employee bonuses from 2002 to 2007, according to figures compiled by the New York State Office of the Comptroller. Let's break that down: Wall Street honchos earned a bonus of $9.8 billion in 2002, $15.8 billion in 2003, $18.6 billion in 2004, $25.7 billion in 2005, $33.9 billion in 2006, and $33.2 billion in 2007.

Those years were the heyday of the hedge fund pirate, the private equity buccaneer, the 9-and 10-figure-salary quant jock, and other financial creatures who created all kinds of complex securities and highly leveraged transactions, many of which are now coming a cropper, from LBOs to CDOs. What a deal. Financiers preached the free-market gospel and pocketed unheard-of sums of money--yet when times got tough, they called for a government bailout. So my question is: Why shouldn't the taxpayer, now that they are bailing out Wall Street, ask for the $137 billion back?

Now, the bigger right now is about limits on future compensation. The financial services industry opposes any limits. Here's the money quote from today's New York Times:

But Wall Street, its lobbyists and trade groups are waging a feverish lobbying campaign to try to fight compensation curbs. Pay restrictions, they say, would sap incentives to hard work and innovation, and hurt the financial sector and the American economy.

"We support the bill, but we are opposed to provisions on executive pay," said Scott Talbott, senior vice president for government affairs at the Financial Services Roundtable, a trade group. "It is not appropriate for government to be setting the salaries of executives."

That's fine if that's the industry's position. But then it's "not appropriate" for the taxpayer to fund a $700 billion bail out, either.


Comments (3)

Why can't Washington pass tax legislation to greatly increase taxes on income and capital gains for those earning over 7 figures in 2007? That would seem to be the most fair and democratic way for taxpayers to foot the bill for this bailout. Those who benefitted most from the actions of Wall Street would be paying back some, if not most, of their gains.

I'm a neophyte on the economics front, but this whole bailout/taxpayer loan seems disingenuous at best. Maybe it's time we swallowed the bitter pill that our economy will only be healthy once our household budgets themselves are healthy. The average American carries somewhere in the neighborhood of $8500 debt? Ouch. Wasn't the Government complicit in the mortgage industry's complex loan schemes? I think there's enough blame to go around and that by allowing the market to "bottom out" may be the adjustment we need to deflate some egos on Wall Street and on Capitol Hill.

I totally agree with Troy's comments on household debt. But I also find it hard to pass blame on those in debt since they are just following the government's lead.

I would argue that until Washington cleans up their national debt and budget deficit issues, we can't expect the average citizen to.

Post a comment

(If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)

 

 
 

Subscribe to RSS

Latest posts

Warren Buffett
 
Voted
 
Policy and a pint
 
Prediction markets, one last time
 
Stocks for the long run
 
Fleeing equity mutual funds
 
A sobering statistic
 
Nobel laureates and their money
 
Other post World War ll depressions
 
The election
 

Topics


 

Latest comments from recent posts

A sobering statistic (1)
Ray The Money Man wrote: Chris, I couldn't agree more. Maybe I am just old enough to ... [read]

Other post World War ll depressions (1)
hakiton wrote: In 1985 years - it is good year for traidings, ... [read]

The election (1)
Nigel Eccles wrote: It is in the news media's interest for it to be a close race... [read]

What caused the Great Depression? (1)
Greg Ransom wrote: De Long is lying about Hayek. Hayek never said "depressions... [read]

Third Bank of the United States? (2)
Gene wrote: Some have call a Third Bank of the United States a Marxist p... [read]


 

Archives

November 2008
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007

 

Appearances and Worthwhile Events

Policy and a Pint: Health Care Handcuffs
 
 
 

More From
Chris Farrell

Marketplace Money's Money Clip Video
 
How Alan Helped Ben (BusinessWeek.com)
 
 
 

Other Blogs

Andrew Tobias
 
Angry Bear
 
Becker-Posner Blog
 
Brad DeLong
 
Cafe Hayek
 
Calculated Risk
 
Econbrowser
 
Economics Unbound
 
Economists View
 
Financial Rounds
 
Finance Roundtable
 
Greg Mankiw's Blog
 
Hot Property
 
Marginal Revolution
 
New Economist
 
TaxProf Blog
 
The Big Picture
 
Vox Baby
 
 
 

Books by
Chris Farrell

Right on the Money!: Taking Control of Your Personal Finances
rightonthemoney_bookcover.gif

 
 
 
Deflation: What Happens When Prices Fall
deflation_bookcover.gif

 
 
 

Recommended Books

Against the Gods: The Remarkable Story of Risk
by Peter L. Bernstein

 
A Random Walk Down Wall Street
by Burton Malkiel

 
The Little Book of Common Sense Investing
by John Bogle

 
Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits
by Phillip Fisher

 
The Intelligent Investor
by Benjamin Graham

 
More Than You Know: Finding Financial Wisdom in Unconventional Places
by Michael Mauboussin

 
Smart and Simple Financial Strategies for Busy People
by Jane Bryant Quinn

 
Stocks for the Long Run
by Jeremy Siegel

 
The Random Walk Guide to Investing: Ten Rules for Financial Success
by Burton Malkiel

 
The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need
by Andrew Tobias

 
Unconventional Success: A Fundamental Approach to Personal Investment
by David F. Swensen