KPCC Election 2008
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- November 4, 2008 10:37 PM
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6 Comments
If the Democrats don't do something on the federal level to ensure the rights of gays to marry, with control of both houses of congress and the white house, they'll have completely squandered their moral high ground.
Barack also needs to get rid of the silly don't-ask/don't-tell policy, which he could do on his first day in office.
Although Obama has supported the Akaka Bill previously, one can only hope that he lives by his racial unity rhetoric ("out of many we are one") and refuses to create a separate race-based government in my homeland of Hawaii, which both Barack and I are natives of.
It always puzzles me how the idea of equality and civil rights got turned into a practice of racial preferences and race-based privileges. When the Democrat party finally embraces this idea of equality under the law, they'll get my vote.
I am speaking as a straight man, about to marry the woman he has dated for 3.5 years, watching the returns on Prop 8. If California passes Proposition 8, I will feel a deep shame I have never before felt for the state I choose to call home. That the people here could decide to limit someone else's freedom and set back civil rights in this country in such a cruel manner is beyond my comprehension.
I am holding my breath on Prop. 8, but what could be next? Christian Scientists proposing a ban on medical care? Seventh Day Adventists moving to ban the eating of meat? I am at a loss to imagine how, as the advertisements in favor of Prop 8 claim, the gay marriages that have occurred in the past few months here in California have in any way interfered with the practice of anyone's religion, And so a child comes home from school asking about gay marriage. Is it really news to any second grader that diversity exists within the human race and not all people share the same beliefs?
If we are intent on protecting marriage, let's ban divorce!
At this moment, I am of course, ecstatic about the presidential election. But like the other commentators on this page... That we passed prop 8 is shameful. My only comfort comes from knowing that prop 8 will *NOT* stop gay marriages. On the contrary, this is a bump on the radar. Prop 8 might slow the process down, but it will certainly not end or stop anything. In my daydreams.... the CA state supreme court will just throw prop 8 out the window. In reality, I know it will be a bit harder....
The result of prop 8 is a measure of public attitudes. If gay marriage is a civil rights issue, it seems obvious that greater benign freedoms for the population would benefit the state. Apparently the majority of CA voters want intimate monogomous or semi-monogomous homosexual relationships to be publicly socially illegitimate, and they want homosexuals to have equal rights in most practical respects. Have the architects of this civil rights movement outrun the popular attitudes and provoked a backlash to the current marriage issues? In what way is this civil rights movement in/effective and why are voters resistant to the arguments of civil rights proponents? What equal marriage supporter would take issue with a national policy of civil partnership identical to marriage as in the UK, if this wasn't felt to be a high handed form of discrimation unnecessary given the existing widespread formal marriage infrastructure. If homosexuals were not currently and historically marginalized and hated, they might not so readily view the denial of marriage rights as state sanctioned discrimination.